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fiction, hmm. i've never really figured out the difference between fiction and non-fiction.
i'm posting this message because i'm interested on opinions on what i (and some people i know) are trying to do. it's definitely an experiment in publishing - i've put my novel online for free and am making trade-paperback copies of it available at cost (so basically, someone can by a book for just over $6 including postage). all actual income is based on a contribution system. The only book online now is my own, though hopefully we'll have some more up soon (and we're taking submissions if you like the concept).
there's a lot of philosophy behind the site that i won't bore you with in this email (though it's up on the site) but it's truly an attempt to be pro-artist and pro-audience. it's also a response to technology - you can already get pretty much any book you want for free online anyway, if you know where to look... so this is an attempt to see how trust-based systems work in practice.
it's an evolution of the business practices i've respected all my life - like Dischord Records $7ppd cds. I don't like the current culture industry and have no interest in playing the game their way - and I think technology offers us some incredible opportunities if we just take them. so that's what i'm trying to do.
as for the novel itself, people seem to dig it, so maybe you will too. i'd definitely be interested in comments on it as well.
kristopher
oh, and you can check out the site at: www.anothersky.org
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Thu, April 13, 2006 - 12:17 PMAre you familiar with Cory Doctorow [ www.craphound.com ]? He publishes much like this, accept he works with a traditional publisher and distributor. Personally, I think more and more artists with unique voices are going to go this way. -
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Thu, April 13, 2006 - 12:33 PMyea, Cory Doctorow is mentioned on our site more than once... most prominently at
www.anothersky.org/main/neo...eriments/
his method is slightly different because (as you mention) he works with a traditional publisher. This prevents him from accepting any sort of contribution for his online work since it might affect sales (which I only know from reading his site during my own research).
we're taking it another step past that - the books we put out will be available at cost... so even the dead-tree versions are contribution based.
but yea, Cory seems like a great guy. Anyone that is/was a part of the EFF is alright in my book. -
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Thu, April 13, 2006 - 1:23 PMThis is exciting stuff, Kristopher.
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Mon, April 24, 2006 - 8:03 AM"i've put my novel online for free and am making trade-paperback copies of it available at cost..."
Didn't Stephen King do something similar, Kristopher, a couple of years back with one of his novella's?
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Wed, April 26, 2006 - 7:14 AMHow is that working for you Geri?? -
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Thu, April 27, 2006 - 2:52 PM"How is that working for you Geri??"
How is what working, Cliff? Oh, never mind I think I see what's happened. Have you misunderstood that I was quoting Kristopher? He's the one who has the novel online for free as an experiment. I was merely asking him a question.
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Thu, April 27, 2006 - 1:15 AM
similar? sort of?
he tried to charge $1 per chapter. he later raised it to $2. he wrote it as it went along, and demanded that at least 75% of his readers pay him a dollar or he wouldn't put out the next chapter.
needless to say, it was a disaster. he never finished the book, and lots of people paid for a few chapters and never got to see an ending.
there's an article that references this fiasco at:
www.anothersky.org/main/our...atronage/
Click isn't done that way - the entire thing is up online, for free. Contributions are cool (otherwise... how does the author make money?) but aren't required. It's a serious attempt to be as supercool to artist/audience as possible... in this world where you can download anything for free (illegally or not) it's nice to have an option to actually support the artist without buying a $15 book or cd. So... this is an attempt to make it happen, where people can either read it for free online or buy a book for as low as $6 (postage paid). Theoretically, the audience benefits because they can legally read it for free or get a print version for an amount that they feel comfortable giving based on their own interests and income. The author benefits because people that might not be interested in buying a $15 book might read it online for free and then contribute a few bucks.
If it works, our hope is more people will follow in our footsteps and make this sort of thing prevalent. I know there are a few cds and books out there that i've had the pleasure of experiencing for free (passed along from friends, etc) and I've totally wanted to throw a few bucks their way... but not $10-20, especially knowing they're likely not getting the best royalty in the world (5% royalty doesn't pay the bills unless you're selling tons and tons... Another Sky Press reverses that equation and authors/artists get the lion's share).
People seem to be really digging the book so far, but it's far to early to know what kind of overall results we're going to see. -
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Thu, April 27, 2006 - 8:44 AMYou know where I could really see this model working well? There's an interesting problem in the publishing world for authors who produce both novels and short works. Normally, the publisher puts out a few of their novels and then releases a collection of their short stories. The problem with this is that the short story collections never sell at the same volume as the novels, and the author ends up getting mid-listed by the idiots in accounting and marketing. So most authors now have their novels sold at one publishing house, and then go to a smaller press to have their collections released. However, it's rare for an established author to ever release all their short stories in a series of collections. I imagine if you approached a few authors who are rather prolific short story writers with this publishing model, they might be interested in giving it a go. Housing a large number of big name author's collections would also attract the attention of more possible buyers for the novels you publish. -
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Tue, May 2, 2006 - 10:43 AMthis is actually already in the works - the original idea behind another sky press was to do just that - provide an outlet for short stories that otherwise might be ignored. by the time it reached actuality, the first project was a novel. there is already a anthology of short stories by an assortment of authors in the works (we're still looking for a few writers so if you're interested, contact us via the site).
we're also interested in contacting 'established' writers that might be interested in testing the model with something like a short story - which is relatively low risk for them and has a high chance of seeing contributions (that, in theory, could easily make them more for a short story than traditional methods). another sky press (and more importantly, the contribution model it uses) would benefit from their added clout and exposure. but contacting established authors isn't always easy...
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Thu, April 27, 2006 - 3:19 PM"he tried to charge $1 per chapter..."
Thanks for explaining what happened with that situation, Kristopher. I'm not the audience for King, and I wasn't curious at the time to look beyond the initial hype.
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Sun, November 23, 2008 - 7:09 PMHave you considered publishing your book offline? or self-publishing?
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Wed, November 26, 2008 - 6:39 AMI have recently invented a completely new genre.
I call it the 'nonfiction autobiography'.