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The parent Company is: On-Demand Publishing, LLC, This company is owned by Amazon.com
Make no mistake about this is a Vanity press but, it is one with extras.
You can sell on Amazon or their own site.
Marketing is entirely your problem.
I did a National search of all reported caselaw and found only one instance where this company “On-Demand Publishing, LLC,” Is mentioned (Sandler v. Calcagni, 565 F.Supp.2d 184 (D.Me.,2008) ). They were caught up in a case where an author published information allegedly about a person who believed themselves to have been defamed by the information in the book. The suit did not allege any wrong by On-Demand Publishing, LLC, against the Author. The case is interesting in that the court went into some detail about the mechanics of how books are sold this way. If you want to read it PM me and I’ll PM you back a copy.
There is another Amaxon subsidiary called “BookSurge” www.booksurge.com/content/G...eneral.htm
The royalty and fee structure is not too onerous and the agreement is non exclusive. Which means you can sign with another publisher if such an opportunity comes along.
However, it is perpetual. Which fact may trouble another publisher as they will always have to share control with CreateSpace. Read all of Section 6 in their Agreement. It covers ownership and what exactly is it to which they have a perpetual license to.
If they are sued based on your work you will have agreed to indemnify, hold harmless, (you have no claims against CreateSpace) and DEFEND them: meaning you pay for their Lawyer and costs.
On the up side:
Amazon’s lawyers were not smart enough to include the Dollar Amount for Attorney’s fees and admin’ costs. Whenever you are drafting an agreement that contemplates attorney’s fees you should always specify an amount certain for lawyer fees. Specify it in an actual dollar amount per hour and specify another dollar amount for administrative and secretarial costs. I like to set my lawyer fees in agreements which I draft at $1,500.00 per hour and admin etc, fees at $300.00 per hour. This way you can’t get an ornery judge who wants to fuck your lawyer and give him One-Dollar per hour. Yes judges do this all too often. But if it’s in the agreement it is much harder for them to fuck with it. They still can but, it’s grounds for an appeal if they do.
And of course if end up looking for a lawyer to take your case, having a fee with the sum certain right there in the agreement is a powerful inducement for the lawyer because he knows that if he wins he will have both you and the other guy on the hook for his fee.
( bet you didn’t know any of that before did ya)
Right now I am still pouring over the agreement (www.createspace.com/Help/Rig...ement.jsp ) looking for traps and pitfalls.
It’s got the usual crap about you agreeing to whatever changes they make to the agreement so long as you continue to use the service after the changes are effective.
There is some odd language abut pricing. Throughout the site you are assured that you set the list price. But this (below quoted) paragraph is not quite in sync with those assurances:
“ We will have sole discretion in setting the selling price to Customers for all Units made available for sale on the Amazon Properties. You will provide a List Price for each Title […] which will be at or below (a) the price at which you list or offer that title via any other sales channel; and (b) the price at which you sell such title in physical form to customers through any distribution method. For the purpose of this Agreement, "List Price" means the list price that you submit to us per individual Title. Please note that you may update the List Price for your Titles at any time in accordance with the Submission Requirements, but it may take as long as 30 days for the list price on the Amazon Properties to be updated.”
Credit Card Fraud and Bad debt:
You the Author must pony up to cover their asses if they are scammed. You don’t have to cover their fees but, rather you pay back your royalties.
TERMINATION:
It is mutual. Either party can get out of the agreement at any time They can do it by E-mail and you can do it electronically too.
I however, always prefer to double up with that tried and true Certified US Mail Return Receipt Requested.
I'll post back with whatever else I find.
There are two outlets for CreateSpace one is their E-Store and the other is Amazon
The E-Store takes 20% of the list price
Amazon takes 40% of the list price
They have two membership schedules I one is called the Pro-Plan. I’m still trying to figure why paying the extra will return any benefits. The Pro Plan is not mentioned in the Agreement.
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Books with 24 - 108 pages:
………….…………………………Standard plan ……………….Pro Plan
Fixed Charge Per Book …………….$3.66 …….…………… $2.15
Charge per Page……………………….None……………………None
Books with 110 - 828 pages
………….…………………………Standard plan ……………….Pro Plan
Fixed Charge Per Book ……………….$1.50 …….…………… $0.85
Charge per Page…………………..…….$0.02……………………$0.012
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For Books with Color images
Books with 20 – 40 Pages
………….…………………………Standard plan ……………….Pro Plan
Fixed Charge Per Book …………….$6.55 …….…………… $3.65
Charge per Page……………………….None……………………None
Books with 42-250 Pages
………….…………………………Standard plan ……………….Pro Plan
Fixed Charge Per Book………..…….$1.75 …….…………… $0.85
Charge per Page……………………….$0.12……………………..$0.07
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EXAMPLE of a book with a List Price of $16.00
…………………….…eStore Sale…………………………. Amazon.com Sale
Seller’s fee….………. $7.70 …………………………………….$10.90
Author’s Royalty…… $8.30 …………………………………..…$5.10
Make no mistake about this is a Vanity press but, it is one with extras.
You can sell on Amazon or their own site.
Marketing is entirely your problem.
I did a National search of all reported caselaw and found only one instance where this company “On-Demand Publishing, LLC,” Is mentioned (Sandler v. Calcagni, 565 F.Supp.2d 184 (D.Me.,2008) ). They were caught up in a case where an author published information allegedly about a person who believed themselves to have been defamed by the information in the book. The suit did not allege any wrong by On-Demand Publishing, LLC, against the Author. The case is interesting in that the court went into some detail about the mechanics of how books are sold this way. If you want to read it PM me and I’ll PM you back a copy.
There is another Amaxon subsidiary called “BookSurge” www.booksurge.com/content/G...eneral.htm
The royalty and fee structure is not too onerous and the agreement is non exclusive. Which means you can sign with another publisher if such an opportunity comes along.
However, it is perpetual. Which fact may trouble another publisher as they will always have to share control with CreateSpace. Read all of Section 6 in their Agreement. It covers ownership and what exactly is it to which they have a perpetual license to.
If they are sued based on your work you will have agreed to indemnify, hold harmless, (you have no claims against CreateSpace) and DEFEND them: meaning you pay for their Lawyer and costs.
On the up side:
Amazon’s lawyers were not smart enough to include the Dollar Amount for Attorney’s fees and admin’ costs. Whenever you are drafting an agreement that contemplates attorney’s fees you should always specify an amount certain for lawyer fees. Specify it in an actual dollar amount per hour and specify another dollar amount for administrative and secretarial costs. I like to set my lawyer fees in agreements which I draft at $1,500.00 per hour and admin etc, fees at $300.00 per hour. This way you can’t get an ornery judge who wants to fuck your lawyer and give him One-Dollar per hour. Yes judges do this all too often. But if it’s in the agreement it is much harder for them to fuck with it. They still can but, it’s grounds for an appeal if they do.
And of course if end up looking for a lawyer to take your case, having a fee with the sum certain right there in the agreement is a powerful inducement for the lawyer because he knows that if he wins he will have both you and the other guy on the hook for his fee.
( bet you didn’t know any of that before did ya)
Right now I am still pouring over the agreement (www.createspace.com/Help/Rig...ement.jsp ) looking for traps and pitfalls.
It’s got the usual crap about you agreeing to whatever changes they make to the agreement so long as you continue to use the service after the changes are effective.
There is some odd language abut pricing. Throughout the site you are assured that you set the list price. But this (below quoted) paragraph is not quite in sync with those assurances:
“ We will have sole discretion in setting the selling price to Customers for all Units made available for sale on the Amazon Properties. You will provide a List Price for each Title […] which will be at or below (a) the price at which you list or offer that title via any other sales channel; and (b) the price at which you sell such title in physical form to customers through any distribution method. For the purpose of this Agreement, "List Price" means the list price that you submit to us per individual Title. Please note that you may update the List Price for your Titles at any time in accordance with the Submission Requirements, but it may take as long as 30 days for the list price on the Amazon Properties to be updated.”
Credit Card Fraud and Bad debt:
You the Author must pony up to cover their asses if they are scammed. You don’t have to cover their fees but, rather you pay back your royalties.
TERMINATION:
It is mutual. Either party can get out of the agreement at any time They can do it by E-mail and you can do it electronically too.
I however, always prefer to double up with that tried and true Certified US Mail Return Receipt Requested.
I'll post back with whatever else I find.
There are two outlets for CreateSpace one is their E-Store and the other is Amazon
The E-Store takes 20% of the list price
Amazon takes 40% of the list price
They have two membership schedules I one is called the Pro-Plan. I’m still trying to figure why paying the extra will return any benefits. The Pro Plan is not mentioned in the Agreement.
-*************************************************************-
Books with 24 - 108 pages:
………….…………………………Standard plan ……………….Pro Plan
Fixed Charge Per Book …………….$3.66 …….…………… $2.15
Charge per Page……………………….None……………………None
Books with 110 - 828 pages
………….…………………………Standard plan ……………….Pro Plan
Fixed Charge Per Book ……………….$1.50 …….…………… $0.85
Charge per Page…………………..…….$0.02……………………$0.012
-****************************************************************-
For Books with Color images
Books with 20 – 40 Pages
………….…………………………Standard plan ……………….Pro Plan
Fixed Charge Per Book …………….$6.55 …….…………… $3.65
Charge per Page……………………….None……………………None
Books with 42-250 Pages
………….…………………………Standard plan ……………….Pro Plan
Fixed Charge Per Book………..…….$1.75 …….…………… $0.85
Charge per Page……………………….$0.12……………………..$0.07
-*************************************************************-
EXAMPLE of a book with a List Price of $16.00
…………………….…eStore Sale…………………………. Amazon.com Sale
Seller’s fee….………. $7.70 …………………………………….$10.90
Author’s Royalty…… $8.30 …………………………………..…$5.10
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Re: I am considering "Create Space" as a publisher
Wed, May 27, 2009 - 10:41 AMAt any rate do please post here if you know anything about this site or maybe a better one.
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Re: I am considering "Create Space" as a publisher
Wed, May 27, 2009 - 4:30 PMI only know that many other independent book publishers are a little pissed off at Amazon. They feel they've kind of monopolized using that company. That might be better for you, however. The one publisher who I have heard who is most against it has her own independent publishing company. It's Angela Hoy, she does Writers Weekly (www.writersweekly.com, I think) and the name of her publishing company is Booklocker.com. Now, I used to think of her as a fairly unbiased source of info, but lately she doesn't feel so unbiased. So, you'll need a large dose of salt when you're checking her out, but check her out. I still think she has some good info once you bypass the personal biases. She has a whole whispers and warnings page for freelancers and employers as to who doesn't pay or doesn't pay well.
Have you ever looked into SynergE publishing? Or Lulu? I have a friend who has used both. He publishes on Lulu so he can get it into book form and proofs it with the private copy he buys for himself through Lulu. But he has ebooks published through SynergE. Might be worth checking out.
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Re: I am considering "Create Space" as a publisher
Sat, May 30, 2009 - 12:49 PMYah it's names I didn't know about. The CreateSpace people want your SS number to report your taxes. Some bone head there probably figured that some idiots who managed to sell enough books would get stung by the tax man for failing to file quarterly and then would blame it on CreateSpace. Which is a completely unrealistic thing and a waste of money and effort by the fools at Amazon. They should have hired me.
If you are an independent entity, you and you alone are responsible for your taxes. Trying to blame your non payment of your taxes on the non-employer is a fool's game and wouldn't likely survive summary judgment. But, getting oneself all involved in the business of collecting and paying taxes for an independent entity means you are slipping the noose around your own neck for no good reason. One misstep: one penny wrongly withheld and you are looking down the barrel of a class action lawsuit.
I can't imagine the stupidity of the person/s that advised them to do this.
If it was a lawyer it is per se malpractice.
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Re: I am considering "Create Space" as a publisher
Sat, May 30, 2009 - 8:58 PMCheck here: rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0geu7...prededitors/
